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These is how i protect my self from being taken in on a scam. any body that has a paypal account knows what i mean. you need a credit card, checking account for paypal. and paypal verifies this info with bank and credit card company, its a safer way to buy used ham gear. Im not tellinh you all what to do, just trying to help some of you from being scamed in the future..

Folks, PLEASE read the PayPal terms and conditions! You are at risk any time a PayPal CREDIT CARD purchase is made from you. If a buyer decides to cancel the deal after you send him the goods, he just has to notify the credit card company that the goods are unsatisfactory, the credit card company takes back the funds from PayPal and PayPal takes back the funds from YOUR BANK or your CREDIT CARD account without even notifying you. You are left without the goods and without the funds. Why? Because PayPal will not take the loss--you will.

Check it out for yourself. Do your own research. READ the terms and conditions. Dig around the Internet using Google or your favorite search service. There are many accounts of "PayPal Problems" available .


K4ICL

K4ICL wrote:

These is how i protect my self from being taken in on a scam. any body that has a paypal account knows what i mean. you need a credit card, checking account for paypal. and paypal verifies this info with bank and credit card company, its a safer way to buy used ham gear. Im not tellinh you all what to do, just trying to help some of you from being scamed in the future..

Folks, PLEASE read the PayPal terms and conditions! You are at risk any time a PayPal CREDIT CARD purchase is made from you. If a buyer decides to cancel the deal after you send him the goods, he just has to notify the credit card company that the goods are unsatisfactory, the credit card company takes back the funds from PayPal and PayPal takes back the funds from YOUR BANK or your CREDIT CARD account without even notifying you. You are left without the goods and without the funds. Why? Because PayPal will not take the loss--you will.

Check it out for yourself. Do your own research. READ the terms and conditions. Dig around the Internet using Google or your favorite search service. There are many accounts of "PayPal Problems" available .


K4ICL

Yes Please do your own research people : Better yet call your credit card company today in fact and ask them how you can cancel a charge on your credit card. They will tell you they have to get intouch with the merchant first. They will not under any circumstance just give you back your money because of what you say. how are they to know if your ltelling the truth?

they will in every case notify the merchant first paypal, paypal will send you a notice about this you have 10 days to responed.

if you did not use paypal and you bought such item from a store. they will contact store.

if this was the case every ham would have brand new ham gear from HRO, AES, etc.. beacuse they all sell used gear! and as all used gear is listed "as
is"


I would like to ask k4icl if he has in fact a paypal account or if in fact he has ever caneled a credit card charge in the last year, where the credit card company just gave him back his money, just because he said the product was
unsatisfactory? have you dont this your self?

Hi guys,

interesting to read what You said already > but be note that any time You are using the PayPal or another system like that You are in risky with Your funds...

When I am buying the goods and will send funds thru PayPal then I can believe only that my partner on the other side will send me the goods. Otherwise he will not shipp the goods untill the funds not arrived on his acount...so what is worse?

What I can recommend? Hard to tell but as most of inteligence agencies doing > as much as possible informations about your partner for business first...!

Good luck,

Petr Ourednik, OK1RP

BTW: Great references goes from me to Ken, K9VT for example.