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VE7JZ - beware of this ham.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:37 am
by VE3GOP
Hi All... just thought I would add my $0.02 about Mr. John Pringle VE7JZ. As I have noticed on this board (noticed it too late), there have been quite a few complaints about this ham. Well, let me take this opportunity to add my experience.
A little while ago I had a 70cm repeater for sale - MSR2000. Nice solid unit with manuals, spares and the duplexer. I posted it on the net and got quite a few replies. One of them happened to be John's. He offered to trade his Icom 6m transceiver (with a rare FM board), MFJ TNC and Astatic mike. I told him that I was unable to to trade with him as I was already working out a trade with a fellow in New Jersey. He (John) was all over me like a wet t-shirt telling me
how great it would be to have this unit in Northern B.C. for the hams to play with it there, yadda, yadda, yadda. He would email me three or four times a day trying to see if I had completed the transaction with the Jersey ham. Fortunately, for John, the deal fell through and I told John that the repeater is his and started making plans to make the exchange. I told him that I would prefer if we both sent our packages collect at the same time.
Well, a couple of days before I sent my package out, John mentioned that he has to go to a hospital for two weeks for some surgery (that was around Oct.1, 2003). I told him I was going to send the package regardless and was hoping he would do the same.
Two weeks went by....nothing. One more week went by....nothing. I emailed John to see if he was back and if everything went ok at the hospital. Couple of days later he replied saying that he was too weak and will pick up the packages at the depot in a few days.Two weeks went by.....nothing. I emailed him again.....no reply. Then I hopped on the net to see if there has been a problem in dealings with this individual. To my horror I found a few people on the QTH.COM forum that either got ripped off or received damaged goods, etc.

Boy, did this ever leave a sour taste in my mouth.

That same day I called the depot, where John was supposed to pick up the packages I sent him. They informed me that the packages are
still there and that John was aware of it as he has visited that depot to send some stuff out. I was also told that if he doesn't pick up the packages until a certain day, they will be sent to me at my cost plus the cost of sending them up
there in the first place (that's about $230 Canadian). I was able to get John's phone number.... I called a few times to no avail as his answering machine was picking up my calls at the very first ring.

So I emailed him again......nothing until a few days later when he emailed back apologizing for not getting to me sooner and that he will get it all done within a couple of days. That was 2 weeks ago. I just called the depot and they
informed me the packages are on their way back and as such, I am $230 in the hole.

Advice for anyone who is considering any sort of a deal with this man.....BE AWARE. Make sure that before you send anything to this guy, get your money (or whatever you're trading) first. Make sure you don't send anything to this guy
collect because you will be on the hook for shipping it up there and back again if he doesn't pick it up.
I will pay the $230 but at least I will have the repeater back. Seeing how others have been ripped off by this guy, I think it's worth it.
Now that I have vented....does anyone want to buy or trade for a MSR2000 UHF repeater? :)

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:55 pm
by ab7dj
I am sorry for your problem. There is a new organization being formed. It is the "screwed by VE7JZ CLUB". This man had surgery all right. I think it was on his brain. He has no conscience. Some hams that weren't involved with this person were actually defending his position. Let's hear from you guys! The whole thing is pathetic. By the way John where is my mike?? ab7dj

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:58 pm
by VE3GOP
Thanks for the reply there... I find it amazing how certain hams could even do such a thing. I can't even imagine myself doing this. I mean, someone entrusts me with their money, their equipment, their time it took for them to pack the stuff up, go to the post office and send it to me and all I could ever think of is ways to screw them? It takes someone with absolutely zero conscience to be like this.
This guy, John, actually talked me out of making a deal with someone else whining that "they could really really use this machine in Northern BC"... well, I suppose they "really really" didn't need that machine after all. The most honourable thing he could do right now is send me the $230 I spent on shipping this repeater back to myself via British Columbia. Oh well, at least the repeater took a nice trip there and back - I wish I had gone with it. :)
I spent 2 hours chatting with him on Echolink, he seemed like a nice guy. He told me he doesn't believe in this rip off bull***t and he would never do it to anyone. He did mention that someone screwed him a couple of weeks prior to our conversation. He insisted to keep the repeater in Canada, and so I bought into this. Boy, was I ever fooled!!!
How do I sign up for this club? Or do I even need to? I suppose you become an automatic member just by getting screwed by VE7JZ.
Again... EVERYONE BEWARE OF VE7JZ.... do yourself a favour and cover your butt before you make any sort of a deal with this individual.

Also scammed by VE7JZ / VE7NVI, John Pringle/Roper

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:00 am
by ab0re
I've also been scammed by this person. I basically sent him money and an antenna.. he sent me a broken radio 2 months later. He does not answer numerous emails. Looks like I'm out about $125. Email me direct if further information is needed.

Thanks & 73,
Dan / ab0re